ShoesFest - #sneakers logs for ShoesDay 2

17:58
< gdp> ashbb: nice to see you, people cant miss you at the top starting with 'a'
18:01
< ashbb> gdp: Oh, hi! Sorry I'm just leaving a bit. :-P
18:03
< ashbb> gdp: Do you have any problem or question about Shoes?
18:03
< ashbb> gdp: Or writing your Shoes app? :-D
18:05
< gdp> I am prasad from rubyLearning, it must be late at night for you
18:06
< gdp> I am just learning , and trying sample shoes programs from source
18:07
< ashbb> Great!
18:07
< ashbb> Are you a student of FORPC101-6C?
18:07
< gdp> creating small things copying code from samples
18:08
< gdp> yes of FORPC101-6C, the oldest
18:08
< ashbb> yeah. sounds nice. :)
18:10
< gdp> ashbb: are your shoes creations available somewhere
18:10
< ashbb> Any stuendts of FORPC? I'm Satoshi Asakawa from Japan. I love Shoes and Ruby. Learning as same as you. :)
18:10
< ashbb> gdp: you mean ShoeBox?
18:11
< gdp> are yours on ShoeBox?
18:11
< ashbb> yeah.
18:12
< ashbb> look at http://www.the-shoebox.org/
18:12
< gdp> nice , i will see
18:12
< ashbb> my tiny apps are footracer, tiddly winks and twitter listener.
18:14
< ashbb> Wow, how nice! Try to run my tiny Shoes app and post your result, works well or not well, please.
18:14
< gdp> I looke at the code of twitter listener. I think , but didn't try as I didnot try twitter so far
18:15
< ashbb> Well, okay.
18:16
< ashbb> I like twitter too. If you join in twitter. Follow me....if you like. :)
18:16
< ashbb> Do you know Twitter Search?
18:17
< ashbb> http://search.twitter.com/
18:18
< ashbb> That is available without your account.
18:18
< gdp> I will look into twitter, I am afraid social sites cosume a lot of ones time
18:19
< gdp> I dont know anything about twitter.
18:23
< ashbb> Well no problem. It's okay only when you have time, you look at twitters. :)
18:26
< gdp> how to download from shoebox , foottracer etc
18:30
< gdp> ok , i could download
18:32
< ashbb> Just access ShoesBox and click on version.
18:33
< ashbb> For example: access http://www.the-shoebox.org/apps/62
18:34
< ashbb> and click v1.0 and save (download).
18:41
< gdp> I did, I am on LInux , i have the required files in the unzipped directory, I get error about custom_require... etc
18:42
< gdp> I changed base path the current directory, where all the files are there.
19:02
< gdp> ashbb: I use version shoes-0.r811 on Ubuntu linux, does footracer work on all versions, or on this version
19:21
< gdp> ashbb: i solved my require problems, now I get some GLIb errors in terminal. I will try your next app .
20:22
< cacimar> I'm adding to the text of an edit_line - how do I indicate I want a line feed while generating that text? \n for instance
20:23
< tbbrown__> what is an edit_line?
20:23
< tbbrown__> oh a text box
20:45
< _why> cacimar so i guess you've put a newline in your edit_line and it's not showing up?
20:45
< cacimar> _why I haven't even been able to figure out how to do a line feed in an edit_line so I can read it after the fact
20:46
< cacimar> I'm writing a microformats generator
20:46
< cacimar> so when someone puts in the company information, the html is generated so it can be copied then pasted
20:47
< _why> what os are you on exactly?
20:48
< cacimar> Mac
20:48
< cacimar> Leopard
20:48
< cacimar> CTRL+Enter works for line feeds.
20:49
< cacimar> I can get it to accept the line feeds, but I can't generate one still
20:50
< cacimar> like @formatlines.text += @url.text = '/n'
20:50
< cacimar> or rather @formatlines.text += @url.text + '/n'
20:50
< _why> oh okay, try: @formatlines.text += @url.text + "\n"
20:51
< _why> and if that doesn't go, we might have a problem on os x
20:52
< cacimar> dang , been using php for too long recently - thanks _why
20:54
< _why> no sweat at all
21:24
< cacimar> Is it possible to attach a tab index for edit_line (so I can tab between fields?)
21:30
< _why> oh you're right, tabbing isn't hooked up on os x
21:35
< cacimar> sigh
21:42
< Wolkowicki_SAMA> 9
23:23
< newbieJoe> uh, hi
23:28
< ashbb> Hi newbieJoe!
23:31
< newbieJoe> I'm not used to that IRC thing - and never tried shoes (yet), but
23:32
< newbieJoe> can anyone tell me if I can make a text terminal like widget in Shoes?
23:32
< newbieJoe> so my Ruby app has a nice Terminal plus some extra grpahic magic on all OSs?
23:34
< ashbb> Yes. You can make text termial with Shoes.
23:35
< ashbb> Try to see (run) sample apps.
23:35
< ashbb> http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/shoes/browser/trunk/samples
23:35
< newbieJoe> Good, thanks :-) So I'll try it. I just want a terminal which behaves approx the same on all OS, don't want to rely on OS provided
23:36
< ashbb> Yeah. Sounds good! Go on!
23:37
< ashbb> You can see the other sample apps: http://www.the-shoebox.org/
23:37
< newbieJoe> when I look in http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/shoes/browser/trunk/samples/edit.rb I see function keypress...
23:37
< newbieJoe> ...is it possible to multithread with Shoes, meaning waiting for keypress and calculating in the background
23:37
< newbieJoe> I know Ruby is green-threaded :-/
23:39
< ashbb> _why is now thinking about using native thread instead of Ruby green-thread, I guess.
23:39
< newbieJoe> I guess just this complicates interfacing on every OS
23:39
< newbieJoe> and I would prefer Ruby 1.9 for the native UTF-8 support...
23:40
< newbieJoe> hm.... but will try... weekend is long, you know ..
23:40
< ashbb> You can ask to _why on the #shoes channel during ShoesFest. :)
23:40
< newbieJoe> isnt that already?
23:41
< ashbb> Oh #shoes is already going.
23:41
< newbieJoe> found the link leading here on reddit.com *blush*
23:42
< ashbb> #sneakers is for beginners
23:44
< newbieJoe> its almost midnight here... will go to bed and try tomorrow...
23:44
< newbieJoe> thanks for your help!
23:44
< ashbb> Okay. Good night. See you tomorrow on ShoesFest!
02:03
< cacimar> why_ Should I file a bug on tabbing not existing in Mac OSX or is that known?
02:06
< ashbb> Hi cacimar
02:06
< cacimar> hello
02:06
< ashbb> Do you find a bug?
02:07
< ashbb> Oops,... Did you find a bug?
02:07
< cacimar> not sure
02:07
< cacimar> in Mac, with edit_fields
02:07
< cacimar> you can't tab between them
02:08
< cacimar> http://github.com/drapetomaniac/microshoes
02:15
< ashbb> Can't you use tab in the edit_field?
02:16
< cacimar> No
02:16
< cacimar> wait is there a edit_field instead of edit_line?
02:17
< ashbb> okay. I'll try to use tab in edit_line with my WindwosXP from now.
02:17
< cacimar> why had commented earlier that tabbing wasn't turned on for Mac OSX
02:17
< cacimar> it was a few hours ago
02:17
< cacimar> I wasn't sure if it was on purpsoe or if it's something that should be logged
02:28
< ashbb> http://pastie.org/241439
02:28
< ashbb> When I key 'tab', focus moves from button to edit_line field.
02:29
< ashbb> Do you want to use tab in the edit_line field as same as other charactors?
02:33
< cacimar> Sorry - I wasn't specific. My expected behavior is that you are in one of several edit_line fields
02:33
< cacimar> When you hit tab
02:33
< cacimar> it goes to the next field
02:34
< cacimar> That doesn't work on Mac
02:37
< ashbb> Oh, I see. Try this: http://pastie.org/241447
02:37
< ashbb> It works well on my WindwosXP.
02:38
< ashbb> If it doesn't work well, it's better to tell to _why.
02:39
< ashbb> Try to run and let me know. :)
02:43
< cacimar> will do
02:43
< cacimar> about to try another run
02:46
< cacimar> yeah - not on the mac
02:46
< cacimar> it doesn't work
02:46
< cacimar> ill report it
02:47
< ashbb> Thanks. It might be bug...
02:49
< ashbb> You say 'it doesn't work' mean .... focus is no move? or crash or something?
02:52
< cacimar> I hit tab. Literally nothing happens
02:52
< cacimar> Not often someone says that and means it, is it ;-}
02:53
< cacimar> Actually , technically I lie
02:53
< cacimar> The exact response is to hilight the text of the current edit_line
02:55
< ashbb> Okay. anyway the focus doesn't move next field. right?
02:56
< ashbb> I'll post this problem into #shoes channel. Can you join?
02:56
< ashbb> Oh, you are already join. :)
02:57
< cacimar> yep I'm there
14:01
< ashbb> Hi all
14:01
< ashbb> Now,
14:01
< ashbb> Current UTC (or GMT/Zulu)-time used: Saturday, 26 July 2008, 12:00:08
14:01
< ashbb> Thanks everone. This is end.
14:01
< ashbb> See you next ShoesFest. Bye!