17:58 < gdp> ashbb: nice to see you, people cant miss you at the top starting with 'a'
18:01 < ashbb> gdp: Oh, hi! Sorry I'm just leaving a bit. :-P
18:03 < ashbb> gdp: Do you have any problem or question about Shoes?
18:03 < ashbb> gdp: Or writing your Shoes app? :-D
18:05 < gdp> I am prasad from rubyLearning, it must be late at night for you
18:06 < gdp> I am just learning , and trying sample shoes programs from source
18:07 < ashbb> Great!
18:07 < ashbb> Are you a student of FORPC101-6C?
18:07 < gdp> creating small things copying code from samples
18:08 < gdp> yes of FORPC101-6C, the oldest
18:08 < ashbb> yeah. sounds nice. :)
18:10 < gdp> ashbb: are your shoes creations available somewhere
18:10 < ashbb> Any stuendts of FORPC? I'm Satoshi Asakawa from Japan. I love Shoes and Ruby. Learning as same as you. :)
18:10 < ashbb> gdp: you mean ShoeBox?
18:11 < gdp> are yours on ShoeBox?
18:11 < ashbb> yeah.
18:12 < ashbb> look at http://www.the-shoebox.org/
18:12 < gdp> nice , i will see
18:12 < ashbb> my tiny apps are footracer, tiddly winks and twitter listener.
18:14 < ashbb> Wow, how nice! Try to run my tiny Shoes app and post your result, works well or not well, please.
18:14 < gdp> I looke at the code of  twitter listener. I think , but didn't try as I didnot try twitter so far
18:15 < ashbb> Well, okay.
18:16 < ashbb> I like twitter too. If you join in twitter. Follow me....if you like. :)
18:16 < ashbb> Do you know Twitter Search?
18:17 < ashbb> http://search.twitter.com/
18:18 < ashbb> That is available without your account.
18:18 < gdp> I will look into twitter, I am afraid social sites cosume a lot of ones time
18:19 < gdp> I dont know anything about twitter.
18:23 < ashbb> Well  no problem. It's okay only when you have time, you look at twitters. :)
18:26 < gdp> how to download from shoebox , foottracer etc
18:30 < gdp> ok , i could download
18:32 < ashbb> Just access ShoesBox and click on version.
18:33 < ashbb> For example: access http://www.the-shoebox.org/apps/62
18:34 < ashbb> and click v1.0 and save (download).
18:41 < gdp> I did, I am on LInux , i have the required files in the unzipped directory, I get error about custom_require... etc
18:42 < gdp> I changed base path the current directory, where all the files are there.
19:02 < gdp> ashbb: I use version shoes-0.r811 on Ubuntu linux, does footracer work on all versions, or on this version
19:21 < gdp> ashbb: i solved my require problems, now I get  some GLIb errors in terminal. I will try your next app .
20:22 < cacimar>  I'm adding to the text of an edit_line - how do I indicate I want a line feed while generating that text?  \n for instance
20:23 < tbbrown__> what is an edit_line?
20:23 < tbbrown__> oh a text box
20:45 < _why> cacimar so i guess you've put a newline in your edit_line and it's not showing up?
20:45 < cacimar> _why I haven't even been able to figure  out how to do a line feed in an edit_line so I can read it after the fact
20:46 < cacimar> I'm writing a microformats generator
20:46 < cacimar> so when someone puts in the company information, the html is generated so it can be copied then pasted
20:47 < _why> what os are you on exactly?
20:48 < cacimar> Mac
20:48 < cacimar> Leopard
20:48 < cacimar> CTRL+Enter works for line feeds.
20:49 < cacimar> I can get it to accept the line feeds, but I can't generate one still
20:50 < cacimar> like            @formatlines.text += 	@url.text   = '/n'
20:50 < cacimar> or rather  @formatlines.text += @url.text  + '/n'
20:50 < _why> oh okay, try: @formatlines.text += @url.text  + "\n"
20:51 < _why> and if that doesn't go, we might have a problem on os x
20:52 < cacimar> dang , been using php for too long recently - thanks _why
20:54 < _why> no sweat at all
21:24 < cacimar> Is it possible to attach a tab index for edit_line (so I can tab between fields?)
21:30 < _why> oh you're right, tabbing isn't hooked up on os x
21:35 < cacimar> sigh
21:42 < Wolkowicki_SAMA> 9
23:23 < newbieJoe> uh, hi
23:28 < ashbb> Hi newbieJoe!
23:31 < newbieJoe> I'm not used to that IRC thing - and never tried shoes (yet), but
23:32 < newbieJoe> can anyone tell me if I can make a text terminal like widget in Shoes?
23:32 < newbieJoe> so my Ruby app has a nice Terminal plus some extra grpahic magic on all OSs?
23:34 < ashbb> Yes. You can make text termial with Shoes.
23:35 < ashbb> Try to see (run) sample apps.
23:35 < ashbb> http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/shoes/browser/trunk/samples
23:35 < newbieJoe> Good, thanks :-) So I'll try it. I just want a terminal which behaves approx the same on all OS, don't want to rely on OS provided
23:36 < ashbb> Yeah. Sounds good! Go on!
23:37 < ashbb> You can see the other sample apps: http://www.the-shoebox.org/
23:37 < newbieJoe> when I look in http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/shoes/browser/trunk/samples/edit.rb I see function keypress...
23:37 < newbieJoe> ...is it possible to multithread with Shoes, meaning waiting for keypress and calculating in the background
23:37 < newbieJoe> I know Ruby is green-threaded :-/
23:39 < ashbb> _why is now thinking about using native thread instead of Ruby green-thread, I guess.
23:39 < newbieJoe> I guess just this complicates interfacing on every OS
23:39 < newbieJoe> and I would prefer Ruby 1.9 for the native UTF-8 support...
23:40 < newbieJoe> hm.... but will try... weekend is long, you know ..
23:40 < ashbb> You can ask to _why on the #shoes channel during ShoesFest. :)
23:40 < newbieJoe> isnt that already?
23:41 < ashbb> Oh #shoes is already going.
23:41 < newbieJoe> found the link leading here on reddit.com *blush*
23:42 < ashbb> #sneakers is for beginners
23:44 < newbieJoe> its almost midnight here... will go to bed and try tomorrow...
23:44 < newbieJoe> thanks for your help!
23:44 < ashbb> Okay. Good night. See you tomorrow on ShoesFest!
02:03 < cacimar> why_  Should I file a bug on tabbing not existing in Mac OSX or is that known?
02:06 < ashbb> Hi cacimar
02:06 < cacimar> hello
02:06 < ashbb> Do you find a bug?
02:07 < ashbb> Oops,...  Did you find a bug?
02:07 < cacimar> not sure
02:07 < cacimar> in Mac, with edit_fields
02:07 < cacimar> you can't tab between them
02:08 < cacimar> http://github.com/drapetomaniac/microshoes
02:15 < ashbb> Can't you use tab in the edit_field?
02:16 < cacimar> No
02:16 < cacimar> wait  is there a edit_field instead of edit_line?
02:17 < ashbb> okay. I'll try to use tab in edit_line with my WindwosXP from now.
02:17 < cacimar> why had commented earlier that tabbing wasn't turned on for Mac OSX
02:17 < cacimar> it was a few hours ago
02:17 < cacimar> I wasn't sure if it was on purpsoe or if it's something that should be logged
02:28 < ashbb> http://pastie.org/241439
02:28 < ashbb> When I key 'tab', focus moves from button to edit_line field.
02:29 < ashbb> Do you want to use tab in the edit_line field as same as other charactors?
02:33 < cacimar> Sorry - I wasn't specific.  My expected behavior is that you are in one of several edit_line fields
02:33 < cacimar> When you hit tab
02:33 < cacimar> it goes to the next field
02:34 < cacimar> That doesn't work on Mac
02:37 < ashbb> Oh, I see.  Try this: http://pastie.org/241447
02:37 < ashbb> It works well on my WindwosXP.
02:38 < ashbb> If it doesn't work well, it's better to tell to _why.
02:39 < ashbb> Try to run and let me know. :)
02:43 < cacimar> will do
02:43 < cacimar> about to try another run
02:46 < cacimar> yeah - not on the mac
02:46 < cacimar> it doesn't work
02:46 < cacimar> ill report it
02:47 < ashbb> Thanks. It might be bug...
02:49 < ashbb> You say 'it doesn't work' mean .... focus is no move? or crash or something?
02:52 < cacimar> I hit tab.  Literally nothing happens
02:52 < cacimar> Not often someone says that and means it, is it ;-}
02:53 < cacimar> Actually , technically I lie
02:53 < cacimar> The exact response is to hilight the text of the current edit_line
02:55 < ashbb> Okay. anyway the focus doesn't move next field. right?
02:56 < ashbb> I'll post this problem into #shoes channel. Can you join?
02:56 < ashbb> Oh, you are already join. :)
02:57 < cacimar> yep I'm there
14:01 < ashbb> Hi all
14:01 < ashbb> Now,
14:01 < ashbb> Current UTC (or GMT/Zulu)-time used: Saturday, 26 July 2008, 12:00:08
14:01 < ashbb> Thanks everone. This is end.
14:01 < ashbb> See you next ShoesFest. Bye!